Wayfarer Interview

We had the opportunity to talk to Kyle Krische of Wayfarer. He talked to us about the new album "Reckless Spring", the upcoming small run of shows, band dynamics and being a long time band. This is what he had to say:

Info
Genre: Punk/Hardcore
Years Active: 2012-Present
Hometown: Kitchener, Ontario
Record Label: None


1) What's your name and role in the band?

I’m Kyle Krische, I’m the primary songwriter and when we play live I play guitar and sing.

2) What made you want to be in an emo punk band?

I got real into punk/hardcore in my early teens and I still love a lot of that stuff but I’ve always had some softer sensibilities. When it came to my own song writing it’s always been like this. This is the only band I’ve been in where I’m the one writing the songs and lyrics and this is just what came out. A big turning point was seeing a band from Windsor, Ontario named Orphan Choir play a house in Kitchener. Up to that point I just sort of liked big bands but seeing a group of people like me, playing in some house in a city they weren’t from and writing some of the best songs I’d ever heard really inspired me to push and try to write something to their level; a level I hadn’t fully believed I could ever get to.

3) Your band is from Kitchener, How is the scene doing there?

The band is so scattered at this point. While we all lived in Kitchener together at some point, I’ve been living in Hamilton the last four years, Steve (lead guitar) has lived in Toronto for probably close to the same amount of time and Mike and Duff (drums and bass respectively) are the only two still left in Kitchener. There’s cool stuff still going on there, Harmony Lunch shows, Kyle Wappler recently hosted Hope Fest and we have friends who still play and come out when we do make it out there which sadly, hasn’t been often. We play there October 26th for the first time in probably 3 years? I never know what to put now when people ask us where the band is from but I think Kitchener is still the correct answer.

4) What is the meaning behind your band name, and how did it come to be?

For the record I hate the band name and think it’s awful. It’s a dumb name, it’s brutal for search capabilities, the facebook algorithm hates it because all the spam accounts share wayfarer sunglasses ads so it autoblocks us a lot, all around it’s been a total nightmare but that’s the kinda shit you can’t foresee or don’t think about when you’re 17 and you only care about hot water music and you need a name for your horrible acoustic project. But yeah, comes from the hot water music song.

5) What is it about Hot Water Music that people seem to relate the band to?

At this point I don’t think there’s much there to consider in terms of comparison but the name will always tether us to them. As I’ve gotten older (read: better at singing) I’ve thankfully lost the ‘punk’ or HWM style gritty voice but I guess the fact we’re just sort of a midtempo, often overly emotional band with loud guitars is where the comparisons both start and end.

6) How do you feel Reckless Spring compares to your previous two full lengths?

I don’t even consider the first full length, Our Fathers, part of this band. In my opinion, the current Wayfarer starts at the Decayfarer split LP. Our second LP, Sleep Through to the Light, was a fully conceptual album where I had characters and very specific themes and ideas I was exploring. Every single detail of that album was meticulously planned out from lyrics, to tone, to artwork, to specific poems and monuments I needed included in the album and artwork. For Reckless Spring I ended up doing the exact opposite. I had no plans, I had no preconceived notions of what I thought the album would be or look like and I wrote anything and everything that came to me. I used to spend a lot of time considering, “is this something wayfarer would do?” and this time around I neglected that thought completely. I’d love to claim it was out of a grand artistic vision where I was cutting the fat and exploring a route we had not yet travelled but the reality is I was just too fucking busy. This stuff would come to me and I’d bang it out. I’d demo it and send it to Steve and Duff and we’d just make sure it smashed. There was a little more of an effort to sort of ‘hit’ with all the tracks and not really slow down or let up and I think we pretty much got that this time around. The only parameter I had was to make sure it clocked in at less than forty minutes. I felt like that’s the sweet spot for a band doing what we do.

7) What obstacles made Reckless Springs take a year to release?

It’s simply the realities of three guys in their twenties trying to make a record at drastically different stages in life. We have no label so every expense came out of pocket. I work full-time, Steve was working and touring with other bands, Duff was working on his PhD, so while I usually swear by locking down in a studio until the album is done, we just couldn’t do that here. I couldn’t just take three weeks off, wave goodbye to the family and record an album. So, we cut it when we could. Weekends, evenings, and we really went hard on stuff we used to have to cut corners on due to cost or time restrictions. We made sure it was perfect, we had time to get friends singing on the record and sending us parts, we took our time mixing and mastering and artwork was always an issue. While the beauty of having no plans was fun for the writing, stuff like album art suffered because I had no idea what to tell the artists. After a couple failed concepts and a few different artists we finally got our guy Branko Vranic whose done almost all our album art to do it. After some hiccups minor hiccups including a broken drawing hand, we finally had the finished package.

Because we don’t have a label, we have to be very focused and directed when it comes to releasing the record. We needed to create our own plan, make sure all the streaming platforms were setup, all the youtube videos created and posted, keep up on Instagram and emails and beg press to cover a small band without a label putting out a full length in the era of streamed singles. We did our last EP, Three Winters digital only and independently with the idea of just put it out there and as a result no one heard it. Thankfully, that was really just an EP of b-sides I had sitting around but I wasn’t going to make that same mistake with how much work we put into this album. It’s just avoiding those dumb mistakes you make when you’re a kid in a band, now that we’re older we can see how it works and where bands go wrong. The worst thing we could do to ourselves was rush it. The slow rollout and being selective on when you’re actually announcing the record was all explained to us by the engineer on the album, Adam Bentley, who runs Auteur Research Group who are a music promotion company. It’s part getting people’s attention and part gaming the Spotify algorithm. This was the only area we brought in outside help because it’s just way out of our wheelhouse. Our last full-length record came out in 2015, there are virtually no similarities in releasing music then and releasing music now. We needed the help.

8) Which song are you most excited for people to hear, and why?

This changed constantly for me for months but I think I’ve probably settled on the album closer, Emotional Youth. I used to make the last song on every release a really grand spectacle. This time again, I wanted to avoid old conventions, so I decided to end the album on a song that just slaps. No introspective, atmospheric sob story closer, just a straight banger. I feel like it just ties the bow around the album. Lyrically it’s just about how much of an idiot baby you are most of your young adult life. The shit you did where now you just shake your head but it’s a chance to rejoice, for me personally at least, in the fact that I’m through it. Obviously, I’m not through being a dummy, but I’ve got an appreciation for those around me who forced me to grow and most of that growth came emotionally with how I handled myself and how that impacted others.

Listen, I feel like in this current moment, music is all about pretending not to care. Instead of getting good, just be awful and pretend like that’s your schtick. Reject people who call music ‘art’ and only write songs about budget beer and thinking your friends who grew up are lame. When the industry revolves around singles and bands who can get people to come to bars to buy drinks, I get it, some awful acts are going to be in vogue. It used to piss me off, but I think Emotional Youth sums up my attitude now. We’re going to stay over here and just keep doing what we’re doing for the small group of people looking for that lane. It’s a great place to be where we get to make these songs, release them, play a few good shows and not drive ourselves and the band into the ground trying to fit with these temporary fixtures in the current music scene. This isn’t the most important thing in any of our lives, not even close, and with that comes a joy when we do get around to doing it. Making this record with the band was an absolute blast. We pushed each other to grow and work in ways I only dreamed of before in the studio and it paid off immensely. We all left a mark on this album and we all are better musicians for it. Playing live is draining sometimes because I have this picture in my head of what these songs are and on stage we just can’t ever hit that level, it’s impossible. But when we’re in the studio, with enough time and work, we can get there and that’s why I love recording so much.

9) You’re playing two weekends of release shows at the end of October. What are you hoping for/expectations with these shows?

Mainly to see friends and bands we haven’t seen in a while and the people we know and love from these cities. These sets will be all new stuff and concise and to the point. I remember seeing Make Do and Mend around the release of the Bodies of Water EP and they played 25 minutes, no stops, no breaks and just hammered the audience. Even as that band got bigger they never stopped doing that and I always loved it. I can’t even count how many times a band just ruined their music for me by playing forever. I once sat through a set from the Wooden Sky that included an encore they gave themselves after already playing for over an hour and I wanted to die. I try and make sure we never do that to anyone in the audience whether they’re there to see us or not.

10) Ten years is a long time as a local band, what mistakes or lessons have you learned that you feel younger bands should know?

Honestly, I’m not sure there are many lessons a young band could learn from us because the music world we existed in is so drastically different at every point. We’ve been a band through all of the 2010’s. CD’s, LP’s, tape fads, mini-disks, USB sticks, free downloads, download cards, streaming, youtube, Instagram like what could we even tell some kids now that they probably don’t already know better than we do? The only important parts about being a young band is making mistakes and working hard on songs. There’s so many kid bands doing this way better than we do so if they could send us some tips, that would be much appreciated. We’re the Olds now anyways in the scene, kid bands don’t even want to respond to our messages anymore.

11) How have you managed to keep the band going and people interested while having life, jobs, and other influences keeping the band from being the main focus?

It’s easy when everyone is very clear this is not a main focus. I write the songs when I have time, I do simple demos of drums, guitar and vocals so that when we do practice, which is rare, we’re all coming in with a virtually finished product. Other people work on their parts at home on their own time so that when we do get together we’re not wasting anyone’s day. We understand the work we have to do and most of the preparation has been done prior. I love recording, it’s my absolute favourite part of being in a band. If I could just make records that would be my perfect scenario. I’d write and record these songs regardless and just use the moniker Wayfarer even if other people couldn’t help out with it. I just love doing it and work hard in my real life to carve out and prioritize that time without taking away from my responsibilities.

12) The band has championed having vinyl releases from the outset of the band. Why go that route when many other unsigned bands steer clear?

Probably because we’re dumb. At this point we’re down to super small runs of lathe cut vinyl because people just don’t buy it, we don’t tour so we’re not pushing the product and I can’t fit anymore boxes of LP’s in my place. I do it because I love it, it’s my favourite format, there’s a real exhilaration in holding it, seeing the art, flipping sides and it promotes an environment of active listening. My daughter also loves holding it, seeing it, having a connection to it besides yelling at the Bluetooth speaker to play her songs and I absolutely love that. I don’t think it’s an accident that as the physical experience with music has changed we see more and more people talking about how lackluster every year seems for new music. There’s a connection there that’s mainly financial that runs through all this. The top will always make their money but those mid-tier bands that 15 years ago could afford to go for it and sell maybe 5000 units in the early days can no longer afford to do that early work they had to to get to where they ended up. Who knows how many great albums we’ve already lost due to the current state of the music industry and all the people who just couldn’t afford to keep losing money on a passion project.
For vinyl though, it’s just a personal taste thing for me and I’m thankful to those labels previously who fronted the cash to allow us to have such beautiful releases.

13) Are there any bands in the Kitchener scene that you recommend people give a listen to?

Hyness is playing with us in Waterloo, half that band has played in Wayfarer at some point. Marcus and Geoff both played on Sleep Through to the Light, our last LP and everything they’ve been doing lately has been stellar. Exalt has always been my favourite band from the area and continues to make heavy music so far beyond what every other band around here is doing. They’re out my way in Hamilton but I love the new Drew Thomson Foundation record and can’t wait to play with them in Montreal in November. We get to play with Laureate and Stuck Out Here on these runs of shows as well and both have been great friends and great bands for the last few years.
Published: Oct 18th, 2019

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